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Post by M. Hawbaker on Aug 30, 2022 11:19:42 GMT
California, the country’s most populous state and the center of U.S. car culture, is banning the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles starting in 2035, marking a historic step in the state’s battle against climate change. The rule, issued by the California Air Resources Board on Thursday, will force automakers to speed up production of cleaner vehicles beginning in 2026 until sales of only zero-emission cars, pickup trucks and SUVs are allowed in the state. The unanimous vote comes after Gov. Gavin Newsom set a target in 2020 to accelerate the shift away from internal combustion engines. The transportation sector represents the largest source of greenhouse gas emissions in California, which has suffered from record-breaking wildfires, droughts and air pollution worsened by climate change. The decision is expected to have sweeping impacts beyond California and will likely pave the way for other states to follow suit. At least 15 states, including New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania, have adopted California’s vehicle standards on previous clean-car rules. www.cnbc.com/2022/08/25/california-bans-the-sale-of-new-gas-powered-cars-by-2035.html |
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Aug 30, 2022 11:24:21 GMT
This should be good. The State that consistently holds the record for the most electrical blackouts per year as well as the most cars of any State in the nation wants to go to all electric vehicles. What could possibly go wrong with that plan.  |
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Post by warriorchild on Aug 30, 2022 11:27:45 GMT
Mel, yep! Goes right along with the guy you mentioned who didn’t get it re a new plug in his garage where he plugs his electric auto in but doesn’t use any electricity duh
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Post by barb43 on Aug 30, 2022 19:34:51 GMT
I wonder how much a month's worth of electricity to charge an EV raises a person's electric bill, on average. I haven't seen that info posted anywhere.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Aug 30, 2022 23:25:16 GMT
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Post by barb43 on Aug 30, 2022 23:51:04 GMT
Meh. That was no help, for me. I couldn't get my head around what was presented.
I want to see something that says "if your electric bill was $350/month during this outrageously hot summer, & you were charging your Chevy Volt at home, and you drive 125 miles a week just to go to work & back, it would add additional $75 to your monthly electric bill.
(If I had a Lucy Van Pelt image on my phone, I'd add it here cuz I'm acting like her. I know.)
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Aug 31, 2022 0:16:25 GMT
If I'm understanding it correctly, a full charge costs an average of $26 of electricity, and that charge is good for about 300 miles.
So, every 300 miles that you drive would add about $26 to your light bill.
On top of that, you would have to lay out $5000+ for the charging station plus whatever it cost you to install a 240 electrical outlet to power the charging station.
On top of all that, electric cars are more expensive than regular cars and the insurance for them is also much more expensive.
And of course, although it wasn't mentioned in this particular article, the car's rechargable battery will need to be replaced about every 4 years at a cost of anywhere between $15,000 and $25,000 depending on the make and model of the car.
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Post by barb43 on Aug 31, 2022 4:59:42 GMT
Thanks, Mel! Your explanation makes far more sense, to me, than all the explanations & calculations in that article!  |
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Post by warriorchild on Aug 31, 2022 8:54:13 GMT
Yep, thank you Mel!
The 300 mile thing doesn’t really mean what it says either.
our friend, in Maryland, knows a man up there in PA, who was going to Jersey …
Well he thought he had enough to go from point A to point B, a lot less than 300 miles, but the charge ran out & AAA wasn’t equipped to charge the fellow’s auto. It was towed to a charging station.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Aug 31, 2022 9:33:25 GMT
Yep, thank you Mel! The 300 mile thing doesn’t really mean what it says either. our friend, in Maryland, knows a man up there in PA, who was going to Jersey … Well he thought he had enough to go from point A to point B, a lot less than 300 miles, but the charge ran out & AAA wasn’t equipped to charge the fellow’s auto. It was towed to a charging station. Aside from cost, that's the biggest problem with any rechargable battery: A brand new one operating under ideal conditions may very well get the full 300 miles, but the older that it gets the less efficient it becomes so that over time the charge will last for shorter and sthorter periods. Also, battery efficiency can be drastically impacted one day to the next by things like big temperature changes, humidity levels, how much time you spend sitting and idling in traffic, etc. And unlike a gas powered car, if your charge runs out mid trip, you can't just walk to the nearest charging station and buy a container of electricity to bring back to the car (assuming that you can even find a charging station within walking distance). |
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