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Post by M. Hawbaker on Feb 25, 2020 10:41:55 GMT
I don't believe those numbers. The impact might come over a year, but for not eating meat, fish, milk, eggs for 40 days, I'd probably be wasting money (family grocery money ). The food will already be in my freezer, so I'll need to purchase other items to eat in their place, plus may have to throw out items in the fridge that spoil when they are not eaten in a timely manner. Plus, it would take decades, maybe even more than a century, to accomplish the forest saved. Farmland is already cleared. I can show that all over Okla - and other states where I've lived. These supposed results are largely a hoax. Even if all Meat farming were stopped immediately and all the farm animals were set free like PETA wants, wouldn't those animals still need to eat, drink, and breath?
So in the short term at least, wouldn't impact on water consumption and CO2 output stay pretty much the same? And huge herds of free roaming cattle and other former farm animals eating whatever they could wherever they could find it would likely damage or destroy more plant life rather than having their food production limited to already designated fields.
Also, If everyone went vegan, current meat based foods would need to be replaced with greatly expanded vegetable and grain farms, so current fields would still need to remain clear of natural forest growth and likely be expanded too in many parts of the world.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Feb 25, 2020 10:52:20 GMT
This is an older article from 2000 and a bit of a long read, but I think it is very relevant to this topic: PETA Gets ReligionTo argue this position, PETA has mailed thousands of letters to clergy, demonstrated at religious conventions, taken full-page advertisements in newspapers, and plastered billboards with pictures of Jesus wearing an orange slice for a halo. Given the growing popularity of vegetarianism, PETA’s position has special appeal to idealistic teens who mistake fervor for proof. Wise parents will discuss this issue with their children before rather than after a food crisis erupts at the family dinner table. The mystical strain of Western vegetarianism appeals to “nostalgia for Paradise.” By not slaughtering animals for food, we will in effect recreate Eden or bring about a messianic Peaceable Kingdom. But human abstinence can’t persuade lions to lie down with lambs any more than it can redesign the biochemistry of our species into something more fashionably “spiritual.”
But nothing in the Bible supports PETA’s notion of a vegetarian Jesus, as even a glance at the Scriptures readily shows. This isn’t a matter of theology but of history because the consumption of animal food had always been part of the culture into which Jesus of Nazareth was born and lived.
catholicexchange.com/peta-gets-religion
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Post by barb43 on Feb 25, 2020 15:10:45 GMT
That is a good article. I keep seeing Genesis 1:28 cited as "what" God gave Adam & Eve to eat: 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And then the vegetarian/vegan person or group goes on a rant about how God did not give us meat to eat, so we're living all wrong if we're meat eaters. Of course, often, there's actually been an anti-Christian slam included in that. It's interesting too that the question of "what would happen to all those animals" never seems to come up. If the animals were suddenly set free, they'd suffer for lack of food, water, and care. These roaming cows would be eaten by predatory animals, they'd develop diseases, they'd die and rot on top of the ground. I'd really like to see that idea presented to PETA folks, and the vegan folks. I have a friend who is a Buddhist, and she pretty much lives her beliefs - she's spent a lot of time in Nepal over the past 20 years, teaching. She is back in the states at present & has decided she'll probably take a year off, what with the coronavirus spreading like it is in China. She has posted pictures of cows roaming the streets in that part of the world and they're puny, and sometimes mentally crazed because they are starving. She has worked with rescue groups to round up cows & put them on farms where they can be fed and cared for. She works with the feral cat program wherever she is usually too ... She doesn't have real good answers for how to prevent the stray cows from being in such bad shape, and I don't push her - I know we'll never agree.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Feb 26, 2020 12:00:30 GMT
Lent in the age of the Impossible Burger: Do rules against eating meat on Fridays apply to fake meat?
Meat is forbidden on Fridays during Lent, driving many Catholics and other observant Christians to partake in fish frys, seafood specials and McDonald’s Filet-O-Fish during the season. The explosion of plant-based proteins now offers more options, and a potential conundrum for the faithful: is it OK to indulge in juicy, beef-like burgers that ooze like the real thing but without the verboten animal flesh? Technically, yes. Faux meat products from the likes of Impossible Foods, made with soy, and Beyond Meat, whose ingredients include pea, rice and mung bean protein, do not run afoul of Lent’s meat abstinence laws, which bar Catholics aged 14 and older from eating animal flesh on Ash Wednesday or any Friday during Lent, save for the aquatic kind. Lent runs Ash Wednesday through Easter Sunday, April 12. But “you risk losing the whole spirit of it,” said Todd Williamson, director of the Office of Divine Worship at the Archdiocese of Chicago, if you substitute meat with a close copy.
Even so, restaurants and grocers see an opportunity in the Lenten season to promote plant-based meat, whose U.S. sales surged 14% over the year ended Jan. 25 to surpass $1 billion, on top of 18% growth the prior year, according to Nielsen. Traditional meat, a $96 billion industry, rose less than 1% over the past year.
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Post by barb43 on Feb 27, 2020 3:26:52 GMT
. . . is it OK to indulge in juicy, beef-like burgers that ooze like the real thing but without the verboten animal flesh? Technically, yes. But “you risk losing the whole spirit of it,” said Todd Williamson, director of the Office of Divine Worship at the Archdiocese of Chicago, if you substitute meat with a close copy. It really becomes a matter of conscience.
It will be interesting to see if there are more articles on the subject over the next 40 days, or if the Church hierarchy will be on the subject.
Wonder what the Pope thinks?
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Post by barb43 on Feb 27, 2020 4:16:09 GMT
Looking for some freeze dried & dehydrated camp food to stock, as we've eaten some of our camp food, and - probably no surprise at this point - I found these recipes for plant-based camp meals. One really jumped out: "plant-based grilled chicken strips". I don't think it should be permissible to use the word "chicken" in this recipe when the ingredient is a plant-based "chicken-flavored" (or maybe "chicken-like") item. Of course, I don't think the word "meat" should be permitted either! These Plant-Based Meat Camp Recipes Taste Like the Real Dealwww.rei.com/blog/camp/these-plant-based-meat-camp-recipes-taste-like-the-real-deal"Elevate your camp game with gourmet meals designed to be meat-free (but not taste like it)." Recipes included: 1. Best Blue Cheese Burger, Ever 2. Squasage Tagine 3. Citrus Chicken Tacos
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Feb 27, 2020 12:27:12 GMT
It really becomes a matter of conscience.
It will be interesting to see if there are more articles on the subject over the next 40 days, or if the Church hierarchy will be on the subject.
Catholics question whether meatless ‘meat’ violates the spirit of Lent
According to the Archdiocese of Chicago, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’ official definition of meat does not include plant-based products, but says instead, “meat comes only from animals such as chickens, cows, sheep or pigs — all of which live on land.”
Even meat juices and things derived from them like broths and seasonings are technically allowed, the bishops said, although, “moral theologians have traditionally taught that we should abstain from all animal-derived products.”
Speaking with the Chicago Tribune, Todd Williamson of the Archdiocese of Chicago agreed that while it’s technically allowed, plant-based meat might be contrary to the spirit of sacrifice that inspires the practice of fasting.
“By going without that we are reminded of others. We experience hunger ourselves. So it’s a bit deeper than whether it’s just a meat product,” Williamson said.
However, the Archdiocese of Chicago said in a statement that even if it may be contrary to the spirit of the season, plant-based meat is still technically allowed.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Mar 3, 2020 19:03:07 GMT
Impossible Foods cuts prices of plant-based meat sold to distributors
(Reuters) - Impossible Foods on Tuesday announced an average 15% cut in prices of its vegan products sold to U.S. distributors as the plant-based meat maker tries to make its patties more affordable to compete better with beef.
Plant-based fast food options are still more expensive on average than regular meat offerings across restaurants, limiting their popularity.
"We are asking our distributors to pass along the price cuts that average around 15% to restaurants," Impossible Foods President Dennis Woodside said.
It, however, added that the price cuts would not affect its products sold at about 150 retail stores.
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Post by barb43 on Mar 4, 2020 0:25:00 GMT
Are Faux Meat Burgers Healthy?www.allrecipes.com/article/are-faux-meat-burgers-healthy/?did=496337-20200303&utm_campaign=hot-dish_newsletter&utm_source=allrecipes.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=030320&cid=496337&mid=30378253445It seems as if the days of veggie burgers made from black beans, mushrooms, and vegetables are long gone, only to be replaced by a new generation of plant-based burgers. Also known as faux meat burgers, these 2.0 veggie burgers have taken the food industry by storm. And if the meat cases at grocery stores are any indication, the new plant-based burgers are going nowhere. Striving to look, taste, and resemble real meat much more than their original counterparts ever did, faux meat burgers are showing up in grocery stores, restaurants, and fast-food outlets not just throughout the country, but around the world. Which begs the question, what are fake meat burgers made from? And more importantly, are faux meat burgers healthy? This article is put up on the internet by one of the very popular recipe sites: www.allrecipes.com/. Some of it is general in nature, but it does contain sections that are interesting reads. The article has sections with the following titles: The Rise of the Faux Meat BurgerThis early section of the article takes a look at the dates when various faux meats arrived in grocery stores and then in fast food restaurants. And where is this market projected to go in the future? "With the plant-based alternatives market forecast to grow to $100 billion in 2030, meat companies like Tyson, Nestlé, and even JBS (the world's largest meat producer)have all introduced their own plant-based offerings to the market." So, Just How Is a Faux Meat Burger Made?Take a look at the ingredients in a single Beyond Meat burger and you'll soon realize that these faux meat burgers are not ones that can be casually whipped up with ingredients from your pantry . . . The Science of HemeThis is the interesting portion of the article. In 2016, Congress officially passed the National Bioengineered Food Disclosure Law, which established a mandatory standard for products to disclose whether they are or may be bioengineered. According to the law, bioengineered foods are defined as those that contain genetic material modified by lab techniques and cannot be created through the methods of conventional breeding or found naturally occurring in nature. The Environmental Impact of Faux Meat BurgersThere's really nothing new here. While it's clear that faux meat burgers like the Impossible Burger and Beyond Burger are better for the environment, getting consumers to make the switch is something that won't happen overnight. "We eat a lot of burgers in the U.S.," says Emery. "The North American Meat Institute reported that American companies processed over 27 billion tons of beef in 2017." If Beyond Meat, Impossible Foods and other plant-based meat companies want to make an environmental difference, they have their work cut out for them. Bottom LineTo sum up it up: "The choice between real meat and faux meat is personal: Do faux meat burgers align with your health and environmental impact goals?" Overall . . . this article is a pretty good read.
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Post by barb43 on Mar 25, 2020 5:24:30 GMT
Okay . . . since there have been no posts here in awhile, and I saw this today, at a time when so many are stocking up due to being hunkered down at home, so thought I would share it here. Here you go: cattails really are an edible wild food. There are some good photos at this link too. www.ediblewildfood.com/cattail.aspx
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Mar 25, 2020 12:00:44 GMT
I've noticed around here that even though good quality meat is one of the things that has been in short supply recently due to all the virus panic buying and hoarding, all of the stores still seem to have no problem keeping the fake meats and other vegan specialty items in stock.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Apr 9, 2020 11:13:45 GMT
Beyond Meat to donate 1 Million burgers for coronavirus relief
The plant-based food company Beyond Meat is working to “donate and distribute more than one million Beyond Burgers to uphold its Feed A Million+ pledge, according to a company statement Monday.
Beyond Meat will make its donation alongside its partners, according to the statement, and it is meant to “make lives easier” as the coronavirus continues to take hold of the country. As of Tuesday afternoon, the novel coronavirus has infected nearly 380,000 Americans, according to data from Johns Hopkins' COVID-19 tracker.
“To reach those most affected and in need, we’ve donated Beyond Meat products to food banks across the country, and are working with partners to prepare and deliver donated Beyond Meat meals to hospitals, community centers and other frontline organizations,” the statement continues. “We’re looking inward to our community of employees and fans by having them nominate causes that matter most to them.”
Causes that Beyond Meat is donating burgers to are in Los Angeles and New York, which include operational outposts in closed down restaurants – an effort the company says “also recreate jobs.”
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Post by barb43 on Apr 9, 2020 14:33:00 GMT
Well, that's nice. (you have to know the old southern joke to get that *wink*) Okay, end of snarkiness. Food banks are serving a lot of people food - I watched an article on that this morning on GMA. Around this town, one of the coffee shops is packing meals in brown bags for kids; many of the schools are passing out bag lunches for today with a breakfast for tomorrow included. Many people here "food insecure" - I think that's the term, even on a good day without all this craziness going around. The Salvation Army food bank was asking for donations in February, before all of this stuff started because their shelves were empty. The local food bank is always asking for donations and volunteers. I can't knock anybody who is providing anything of use to people who need it during this pandemic. That doesn't mean I have to support Beyond Meat outside of their generous support of food banks anywhere at present.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Apr 9, 2020 23:53:56 GMT
Rebellyous Foods snares $6 Million for plant-based nuggets
Seattle-based Rebellyous Foods says it has raised $6 million in investment for a production operation that turns a blend of wheat, soy and other plant products into nuggets that taste like chicken.
The startup’s founder and CEO, former Boeing engineer Christie Lagally, argues that Rebellyous and other producers of plant-based meat substitutes should become more mainstream as the lessons of the global coronavirus outbreak sink in. She noted that China’s “wet markets” are thought to have played a role in transmitting the virus from animals to humans.
“Bird flu, swine flu, and now COVID-19 demonstrate that keeping large numbers of animals in close contact with one another presents a tremendous risk for global health,” Lagally said today in a news release announcing the funding round. “However, to transition away from our heavy dependence on meat, it’s critical that we make plant-based meat affordable and widely available through innovative production technology.”
Her goal is to produce plant-based meat that outdoes animal meat in affordability as well as taste and nutrition. The first customers on the target list were cafeterias at school and hospitals — including Cornish College of the Arts and Swedish Medical Center, which number among the company’s first clients.
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Post by M. Hawbaker on Apr 15, 2020 23:42:49 GMT
Burger King 'plant-based' Whopper ads banned in UK
Burger King has been banned from showing adverts suggesting its Rebel Whopper, which is cooked alongside meat and contains egg, is vegan-friendly.
The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) said the chain's claim that the burger is "100% Whopper, no beef" could be understood to mean it did not contain animal products.
Burger King said it had been "clear and transparent" in its marketing.
The Vegan Society said it was a "missed opportunity".
"We communicated from the outset that the Rebel Whopper is aimed at a flexitarian audience," the fast food chain said in a statement.
But the ASA found that Burger King's social media posts about the Rebel Whopper gave the impression it could be eaten by vegans and vegetarians.
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