Reverse (US) Culture or God Will

My personal belief is that our nation (and most of the other nations that formerly had Christian majorities) as a whole has most likely passed the point of no return and can likely not avoid God's wrath for much longer. But I also believe that we should continue to pray for revival, because while we will probably not see any more major national or international revivals like have happened in the past, there could still be smaller local revivals as well as conversions of individuals.

I do not believe we are under the "wrath of God," but going through the "birth pangs" Jesus warned us about in Matthew 24. The Seal Judgments are God's wrath according to Revelation 6:17 and they are global in scale, but the "birth pangs" in Matthew 24 are regional. Perhaps it is just a semantic argument, but I see God's wrath or judgment as removing the sovereignty from a nation as we see in the Old Testament, or removing the ruling governments as we see in the Tribulation. But the "birth pangs" are the earth groaning for redemption:



Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.



In Matthew 24 we see that the birth pangs started when the fig tree shot forth its leaves (Israel becoming a nation).  Like birth pangs that lead to the birth of a child, we can expect them to increase in intensity and frequency the closer we get to the "birth" or redemption of the creation which is fully realized after God pours out His wrath in the Tribulation.  That said,
I believe some of the birth pangs, and perhaps even the most severe birth pangs are not random, but tied to God's promise to Israel:



Genesis 12:3 - I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you....



Zechariah 2:8-9 - For thus says the LORD of hosts: "He sent Me after glory, to the nations which plunder you; for he who touches you touches the apple of His eye. For surely I will shake My hand against them, and they shall become spoil for their servants. Then you will know that the LORD of hosts has sent Me."



I also believe that the world's mantra of "peace and safety" over dividing God's land and Jerusalem - moving the boundaries stones God has placed, which by the way is the reason Armageddon happens (Zechariah 12:3, Joel 3:2) is a form of a curse against Israel. As Bill Koenig and John McTernan have documented for decades there have been disasters, or curses that have come on nations within a day or two of pressuring Israel to give away land for peace. And the stronger the pressure, the worse the disaster and in most of the weather related disasters they are record breaking and keep getting worse! Note that the "peace and safety" mantra of the world right before the day of the Lord is tied to destruction like "birth pangs"!



1 Thessalonians 5:3 - For when they say, "Peace and safety!", then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.



In many cases these "curses" have slowed down the "peace process." The curses are not just punishment for trying to divide God's land, but it is also about God's will and plan about when He will allow the land to be divided, which won't be until the Tribulation for a brief time.



I also believe that Romans 1 plays a huge roll, but God doesn't directly judge a morally corrupt people until their transgression is complete as we see when God told Abram that his descendants would not be able to take the land until the iniquity of the Amorites had run its course:



Genesis 15:13 Then He said to Abram: “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. 14 And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. 15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.”



We can see the progression of Romans 1 in history and around us today - but today the moral slide toward societal collapse appears to be virtually global in scope rather than limited to a nation or region. When God removes His protective hand it doesn't usually take long for a society to become completely morally corrupt and collapse. I believe only the presence of the Holy Spirit indwelling the Church right now is the only thing holding back the complete collapse of society - and when the rapture happens the collapse will be immediate allowing the world to be reorganized into 10 nations in short order in the first half of the Tribulation.